j 3 cub

[iowa]

is there a good foum like this one
on j-3 cubs?
thanks
dave

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

Dave

There is a forum or two. The Super Cub forum is more active than the J3 Cub forum. I occasionally check them out. Do a google search for CUB forum.

BTW will this is a 170 site I've taken the liberty to ask a few J3 questions here because I'll get answers rather quickly. I try to keep them to general topics that might be of interest the 170 people as well.

We've discussed skis and floats and engine issues which have things common with the 170.

You may note by some of our signatures that several of us also own a J3.
Without turning this into a J3 forum which I doubt we could do, feel free to ask what you want.

[Jr.CubBuilder]

pipercubforum.com

I wish I had one, got my TW rating in one and loved it.

[4-Shipp]

I soloed one on my 16th birthday. The gentleman who built our runway just bought a fresh restoration that looks like it just came off the assembly line, except it has 85 hp. What a sweet, fun airplane. Tempting to trade down from the 170

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

Bruce I have both and it would be hard to sell either under normal circumstances.

If I absolutely positiviely only could have one airplane it would be the 170. You can do most things the Cub can do like fly slow and more it can't like carry a passenger or two and baggage.

Of course if I lost my medical and flew under the sport pilot then you couldn't beat my Clipped Wing Cub if you want an original antique.

I think of a Cub as sort of a motorcycle. Great fun but not very practical for lots of trips. But there are people who drive their motorcycle everywhere 365 no matter what.

[jrenwick]

I flew my J3 to Florida for Sun-n-Fun. Then to Anchorage. After that, I bought my 170 so I could have a cross country airplane.

John

[johneeb]

I flew my J3 to Florida for Sun-n-Fun. Then to Anchorage. After that, I bought my 170 so I could have a cross country airplane.

John

John, that reminds me of the old joke: A woman is braging to her bridge playing friends that she and her husband just returned from their "trip around the world", and next year they are going to go "somewhere else".

[iowa]

were there some reg winged
and some clipped winged cubs.
could you tell me about the difference.
is it simply that 1' is gone from the wing tip?
also, what i'd really like is
to restore an L-4
where is the best place to find one?
dave

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

iowa

All Cubs came from the factory with regular wings. Some like mine have been clipped 6 ft, 3 from each side. Nearly the same short wingspan as later used on the short wing Pipers. Makes the airplane faster and more aerobatic.

The best place to find an L4 is from someone who doesn't know they have an L4. They tend to be less expensive.

L4s are nothing more than J3s with a few modifications for the military. The quickest way to to tell if you are looking a L4 is to look at the bottom window rail above the throttles. You should find two short stumps of tube less than and inch. These are where a level was placed to level the aircraft. Of course you would also want to cross reference the serial number to be sure.

If and when you get serious you should join the Cub Club and order all their back issues of the Cub Club news letter. These are filled with technical details of the Cub. There used to be an L4 wing as well but it is defunct. There newsletter "The Grasshopper" may also be available from somewhere not sure

The Cub Club itself is in the very fledgling stages of setting up a web forum and others have done it long ago with more success so it's not catching on IMHO. The Cub Club also charges $$$ for EVERYTHING even material such as 337s that are donated go for $5 or more. The Cub Club is a business run by it's second owner who also runs other Aircraft clubs.

If you need any further detail PM me.

[GAHorn]

.... way to to tell if you are looking a L4...two short stumps ...to level the aircraft....There used to be an L4 wing as well but it is defunct. ....

What!!? No "level"-headed short stumps?

[iowa]

thanks bruce
for great info
dave

[Dward]

Got my tail wheel endorsement in a J3F. Then bought and flew a swift for 10 yrs before the 170B (2326D).

[iowa]

what i'd really like is a L-4 in pieces for a great project.
i'm finishing another wwii jeep now;
a 1942 slat grill, SN 122876.
when its done, maybe i'll rebuild a cub.
i know things have to be signed off,
is this signing off expensive?
dave

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

.....i know things have to be signed off,
is this signing off expensive?
dave

It depends Dave. What you need to do is develop a relationship with an A&P and IA.

They need to feel confident in your abilities. Then talk to them about what you what to do and how you'd like to do it. Be up front with each other as to what each of you expect from each other. Pay them for their time inspecting things as you go.

There is a ton of hours spend in cleaning parts. Little time comparatively inspecting them. Then lots more hours painting then. Then there is the covering which isn't hard but takes time.

What to pay can sometime be a barter deal. My current A&P IA buddy I taught to fly RC planes when he was 12 years old. He is very appreciative of the time I took then and he is paying back now. To sweeten the deal for him he has flying privileges in my Cub any time he wants. And he does take me up on it believe me which actually makes me very happy.

[iowa]

i take it then
that it would be advantageous
to have several things done
that need inspecting
and then have them come over.
dave