CESSNA 195 ?
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CESSNA 195 ?
I am looking at purchaseing a 195 after many years of 170 ownership. Do any of our members have any experiance with this type? Also how hard of a transition is it? I love my 170 but need more room. Thank you all.
The 190/195 series is one of my loves as well. I was looking for one when I changed my mind and bought a 170.
The 190/195 is a beautiful classic. It's no harder to fly than the 170, just bit less manueverable.
But it's an entirely different animal from the maintenance perspective. It is expensive. A 180/185/206 is a much more manageable maintenance situation, with similar performance as the 190/195, except the 206 will haul a lot more.
Of course, it's not apples to apples. There's no comparison to classic airplanes, but your comment about wanting more capacity caused me to comment on suitable alternative aircraft with similar performance as the 190/195, but which are much more serviceable.
The 190/195 is a beautiful classic. It's no harder to fly than the 170, just bit less manueverable.
But it's an entirely different animal from the maintenance perspective. It is expensive. A 180/185/206 is a much more manageable maintenance situation, with similar performance as the 190/195, except the 206 will haul a lot more.
Of course, it's not apples to apples. There's no comparison to classic airplanes, but your comment about wanting more capacity caused me to comment on suitable alternative aircraft with similar performance as the 190/195, but which are much more serviceable.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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I have owned about six 190-195's but kept only one for ten years, the others were for resale. It's commonly understood the 275-300 hp Jakes (R-755) are the better engines and I would agree for most people. The Continental is pretty underpowered and some parts for the 245 are hard to come by. Mine was an R-915 of 330 hp at 26" MP (limited) and I thought it was spectacular. This was a later engine with limited use and didn't get as fully developed as the R-755. Pistons for it were made from unobtainable but I lucked into a new set so I was good for life.
The 190 with continental gave better visibility and was a three pointer.
The R-755's were good all around, about C-180 performance.
The R-915 3" larger cowl (but who needs to see forward anyway?) and has spectacular C-185 type performance. A little heavier in the nose so it wanted to wheel land.
As for maintenance difference from a 170 it's all forward of the firewall, and there it does take a little more. The swing out motor mount gives great access and things are really simple.
Like any model of 50-60 year old airplanes it's best to pay the money and buy the best you can find. Once you have a plane in great condition tailwheel to spinner it's much easier to keep up with it.
Do it, it's the best airplane experience I ever had (out of about 40 owned planes). Good luck!
The 190 with continental gave better visibility and was a three pointer.
The R-755's were good all around, about C-180 performance.
The R-915 3" larger cowl (but who needs to see forward anyway?) and has spectacular C-185 type performance. A little heavier in the nose so it wanted to wheel land.
As for maintenance difference from a 170 it's all forward of the firewall, and there it does take a little more. The swing out motor mount gives great access and things are really simple.
Like any model of 50-60 year old airplanes it's best to pay the money and buy the best you can find. Once you have a plane in great condition tailwheel to spinner it's much easier to keep up with it.
Do it, it's the best airplane experience I ever had (out of about 40 owned planes). Good luck!
Dave
N92CP ("Clark's Plane")
1953 C-180
N92CP ("Clark's Plane")
1953 C-180
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'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
C195
I purchased and rebuilt a 1952 C195B in 1964.After 39 years I managed to destroy it in December of 2003. It is the ultimate in aircraft transportation. The comfort
of the large cabin and feel of stability. With the 80 gallons of auto gas aboard I could cruse 1950 RPM at 20" MP indicating 152 MPH using 13.5 GPH with a Jacobs 275 hp. I was able to attend most fly-ins and return home without having to purchase fuel.
Sure the aircraft consumes more fuel and oil ( 3/4 QT per Hour) .however
the fuel burn over a cross country flight is equal to my C170.
To own such an aircraft ,it behoves the owner to possess mechanical abilities and have a working relationship with an A & P + AI. If this is not the case with you ,then you had better have deep pockets ,because this
Jewel does demand constant attention .
Please research this thoroughly before making a decision!
Respectfully,
Bob Lea
of the large cabin and feel of stability. With the 80 gallons of auto gas aboard I could cruse 1950 RPM at 20" MP indicating 152 MPH using 13.5 GPH with a Jacobs 275 hp. I was able to attend most fly-ins and return home without having to purchase fuel.
Sure the aircraft consumes more fuel and oil ( 3/4 QT per Hour) .however
the fuel burn over a cross country flight is equal to my C170.
To own such an aircraft ,it behoves the owner to possess mechanical abilities and have a working relationship with an A & P + AI. If this is not the case with you ,then you had better have deep pockets ,because this
Jewel does demand constant attention .
Please research this thoroughly before making a decision!
Respectfully,
Bob Lea
Always a tail dragger! 1948 C170 Ragwing
Luscombe
Stinson V77
Waco UPF-7
Stinson Voager
Cessna 195B
Luscombe
Stinson V77
Waco UPF-7
Stinson Voager
Cessna 195B