Some things just ain't right...

doug8082a · Post by **doug8082a** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:13 am

Despite my penchant for originality when it comes to anything vintage (planes, motorcycles, cars, houses, etc.), I'm perfectly willing to accept the mods that most reasonable people make to these things over the years. But every once in a while you come across something that just ain't right... a clipped-wing, turbine C195???

Other pics and a link to the website avilable at:
http://www.cessna195.org/gallery/gallery.cfm?page=12

dacker · Post by **dacker** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:49 am

GET A ROPE!!!!!!!!!!

Mike Smith · Post by **Mike Smith** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:44 pm

With enough money ... any engine will fit any airframe, as evidenced by this example.

jrenwick · Post by **jrenwick** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:21 pm

Better visibility over the cowling!

John

Dave Clark · Post by **Dave Clark** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:16 pm

As a former 195 owner I rather like it. After all it IS still a round engine right? There were several P&W 450hp conversions and one I know of had clipped wings. I guess it was very sensitive on landings.

Post by **GAHorn** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:12 pm

Ugly-ing up a beeyootiful airplane is a criminal activity.

doug8082a · Post by **doug8082a** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:20 pm

I think the crowing achievement of ugliness is that big, honkin', chrome elephant trunk hanging off the pilot side of the fuselage.

Robert Eilers · Post by **Robert Eilers** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:34 am

Oh - is that a trunk? I thought it was something else.

Dave Clark · Post by **Dave Clark** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:30 pm

I think it would be a blast to fly. And looks are in the eyes of the beholder. I wonder what the range is, cruise speed, and again I would never clip those beautiful wings.

In the NW there are a couple of turbine single otters. The look grows on you and the perforrmance is awesome.

doug8082a · Post by **doug8082a** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:39 pm

I bet the performance would be amazing... that nose is noght longggggg, though.

170C · Post by **170C** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:42 pm

If a person has the bucks to purchase something and change it to his/her personal configuration then its their business. However, like most of you, I personally don't like it and hate to see such a classic plane done this way. But look at all the clipped wing Cubs, etc., etc. Ther are even a whole bunch of C-170's that have been changed a bunch since they came off the production line. Even a few C-172's

hilltop170 · Post by **hilltop170** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:59 pm

I agree with what everybody has said, but look at those FLAPS! If Cessna had put those huge barn doors on the 195 they wouldn't have needed to build the 180/185 and the world would now be full of beautiful round tailed Businessliners.

Dave Clark · Post by **Dave Clark** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:03 am

hilltop170 wrote:I agree with what everybody has said, but look at those FLAPS! If Cessna had put those huge barn doors on the 195 they wouldn't have needed to build the 180/185 and the world would now be full of beautiful round tailed Businessliners.

Yep, true except:

Cost of building that airframe, eliptical wing etc (last real airplane Cessna built)

Maintenance of the radial engine

Mine had the 330 Jake, a wonderful combination. The same performance as a 185 except takeoff and landings due to flaps. Darn, now you're getting me hot for one again

hilltop170 · Post by **hilltop170** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:22 pm

Dave- It's never too late to get another 195, there are still about 600 out there! I forgot the 190/195s were overpriced for the market. It's hard to believe Beech was building Bonanzas for thousands $ less than Cessna was building 195s. They are about 500lbs heavier empty than a 185, about 2200lbs vs. 1700lbs equipped the same. Way kooler though. I wouldn't want to own one but I would still like to test fly that turbine conversion, just to see what it will do.
Richard

Dave Clark · Post by **Dave Clark** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:39 pm

Richard

Not too late but then there's the pulling the prop through before start and positioning it after shutdown, tough to push around without help, and the 20:1 ratio of maintenance to flying hours most of which are FWF. And that's if it's in good condition to begin with. It's a fond memory but... been there done that...