I was reading through the judging rules and explanation of non-authentic items, and it states that all rag wings were either green or red. I have what appears to be the original invoice from Cessna, dated Oct 15, 1948 for my plane and it states: Color - Brown. Any comments?
Keith Plendl
Non authentic color
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I don't know who keeps this information. I can only guess that the best information available that is thought to be true was gathered and until proven incorrect remains the standard.
Your info may prove that indeed some '48s might not have been red or green. In any case if you where to have your aircraft judged I'd make sure the judges saw your proof.
I'd also suggest that you copy your proof and send it in to Velvet with a note as to what it is and if you have what you think are the original colors perhaps good color pictures or samples as well. The info can then be scrutinized and future judging standards adjusted as deemed necessary.
I don't know who keeps this information. I can only guess that the best information available that is thought to be true was gathered and until proven incorrect remains the standard.
Your info may prove that indeed some '48s might not have been red or green. In any case if you where to have your aircraft judged I'd make sure the judges saw your proof.
I'd also suggest that you copy your proof and send it in to Velvet with a note as to what it is and if you have what you think are the original colors perhaps good color pictures or samples as well. The info can then be scrutinized and future judging standards adjusted as deemed necessary.
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
Look inside your door post near the datatag for a "Finish and Trim" dataplate, and you might discover your airplane's original colors.
Example:
5-A-2-CD would indicate a 1955 model airplane with Welsh Green (A) exterior color Rust/Tan (2) upholstery and Trooper Tan (C) and Autumn Rust (D) trim colors.
Lots of possibilities exist and I'll try to develop a code-chart and post it soon. (No "brown" exterior colors are identified.)
Example:
5-A-2-CD would indicate a 1955 model airplane with Welsh Green (A) exterior color Rust/Tan (2) upholstery and Trooper Tan (C) and Autumn Rust (D) trim colors.
Lots of possibilities exist and I'll try to develop a code-chart and post it soon. (No "brown" exterior colors are identified.)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Brown 170?
Could it be indicating a custom paint job?
John
John
John Renwick
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
I recall, as a kid, seeing 170's with a brown stripe. There must have been a few.
I do remember that when Dad bought the 170A, you could have it factory painted for a small additional fee (it seems small today, not so small in 1950!).
I should look through my 170 files - maybe I can find something to that effect.
I do remember that when Dad bought the 170A, you could have it factory painted for a small additional fee (it seems small today, not so small in 1950!).
I should look through my 170 files - maybe I can find something to that effect.
Bruce
1950 170A N5559C
1950 170A N5559C