Fixed gear has certain advantages.

Post by **GAHorn** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:01 pm

http://www.ravenware.com/factand/nofic/ ... index.html

flat country pilot · Post by **flat country pilot** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:39 am

That looks real expensive

How does the military deal with the pilot?

Bill

thammer · Post by **thammer** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:48 am

flat country pilot wrote:That looks real expensive How does the military deal with the pilot?

Bill

Have you heard where "decimation" originated? When the Roman troops screwed up in battle the general lined them up and every 10th ("deci") was killed by the guys next to him. Similar thing here but since there only two pilots, maybe the flight engineer gets to whack them both.

Though he should have been screaming like a girl when they forgot the gear. Hmm... maybe he was and they ignored the gear warning thinking it was him.

More seriously, I have no idea, but it makes a good story. Saw it on a history channel show once.

doug8082a · Post by **doug8082a** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:52 am

Well that certainly looks like a CEM (Career Ending Maneuver)...

Post by **GAHorn** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:46 am

flat country pilot wrote:That looks real expensive ....

Bill

Yep. Guess who gets to pay for that.

tshort · Post by **tshort** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:07 am

I guess I better work a couple extra shifts this month ...

T.

4-Shipp · Post by **4-Shipp** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:20 pm

Somehting I learned from a fellow T-37 IP:

"Gear down, cleared to land...career check complete"

Bill Hart · Post by **Bill Hart** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:29 pm

I am not so sure that it was a gear handle malfunction. In the photos it appears that they blew the gear down with the nitrogen bottle not a normal gear extension.

As to the pilots there are 2 boards that would meet one is the safety board and the other a flight evaluation board. The safety board will try and figure out what happened the FEB will recommend action against the pilots.

CraigH · Post by **CraigH** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:34 pm

According to this report, the cause of the accident was determined to be "pilot error:

http://aero-news.net/news/military.cfm? ... litary.cfm

N2255D · Post by **N2255D** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:37 pm

Don't think B1 has an Engineer.

Pavewlc · Post by **Pavewlc** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:49 pm

It what happens when you keep sending folks on 12+ hour missions into combat zones day after day.
I don't know anything about this mishap other than it occured after a "very long mission at a forward location", but maybe "doing more with less" has not been such a good idea since it has resulted in "doing more with less people". My 2 cents...

Lee

Bill Hart · Post by **Bill Hart** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:29 pm

Pavewlc wrote:It what happens when you keep sending folks on 12+ hour missions into combat zones day after day.
I don't know anything about this mishap other than it occured after a "very long mission at a forward location", but maybe "doing more with less" has not been such a good idea since it has resulted in "doing more with less people". My 2 cents...

Lee

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Fixed gear has certain advantages.

Fixed gear has certain advantages.

"Career Check Complete"