C170 graphics

[4-Shipp]

About 10 years ago, Bela Havasred was kind enough to send me these three vinyl graphics. I scanned them and promptly stuck them in a file. There are two white and one teal. They are free to the first person to send me a mailing address



We sold the 170 almost 5 years ago but are recently back in the classic Cessna game. It's a "170 Junior" and was purchased for my youngest to get his instrument rating, prep for his commercial, and build time.



Bruce

[johneeb]

Bruce,
What a pretty 140!

[blueldr]

Johneeb,

I'm almost sure you meant "140A" ! They're pretty rare.

[Ryan Smith]

PM sent, Bruce.

[johneeb]

Johneeb,

I'm almost sure you meant "140A" ! They're pretty rare.

Dick, at least I knew it wasn't a 120

[4-Shipp]

Thanks. It is a '50 140A with an O-200 and vacuum pump. A bit snug in the shoulders but only 5 knots slower than the 170B on 5.5 gph. Primarily to get my son his instrument rating and build time for his commercial. If it all works out, his first trike gear experience will be whatever we rent for his commercial check ride, and we are working on TW options for that as well.

Life is too short to fly ugly airplanes...

[GAHorn]

I flew a 140-A with 170-A fuel tanks in it on pipeline patrol back in the early '70s. With an O200 and a 54 pitch prop it would true out at 110 kts on 5.5 gph.
We usually flew it at 2300 rpm tho' and it had almost 8.5 hours until flameout. (Don't bother asking how I know that.)

[4-Shipp]

97 KTAS at 2400. A bit finer than what you had Geoarge, but I'd hate to give up any take off or climb performance. Seems a bit anemic compared to what I remember from the 170B. It is a fun airplane and trims up nice. An enjoyable cross country plane...lots of time to enjoy the scenery.

We are a bit short on gas with only 21.5 usable . But it's all good!

[170C]

4SHIPP that is a really nice looking 140A There's nothing like a freshly polished airplane. I am surprised you don't seem to have the takeoff performance with the 0-200 in your 140 as compared to your 170B I would have thought with the lighter airframe its takeoff & climb would have been as good, if not better. Maybe it just doesn't like that "Hotter N Hell" Wichita Falls summer temps

I had a '50 model 140A (9693A) with a C-90 & I learned to fly in a '48 with a C-90. The '48 was a bit faster than the '50 model. I enjoyed the 140A. Sold it back in 1989 to Dave Eby there in WF and he renovated the plane, put in a 0-200 and won a lot of awards with it while he owned it. That plane now belongs to a fellow in South Carolina if I remember.

Good luck to you son with his ratings

Frank

[GAHorn]

97 KTAS at 2400. A bit finer than what you had Geoarge, but I'd hate to give up any take off or climb performance. Seems a bit anemic compared to what I remember from the 170B. ...!

Almost 5 feet less wingspan adds takeoff distance despite the hp/wt ratio. (I could be having a bran-pharrt but I think I recall the 140A Patroller actually had a 170A wing...not just the tanks... and it came off the ground fairly quickly even with full fuel....but that was over forty years ago and it makes me feel closer to bluElder than I'd previously thought...)

[4-Shipp]

4SHIPP that is a really nice looking 140A There's nothing like a freshly polished airplane. I am surprised you don't seem to have the takeoff performance with the 0-200 in your 140 as compared to your 170B I would have thought with the lighter airframe its takeoff & climb would have been as good, if not better. Maybe it just doesn't like that "Hotter N Hell" Wichita Falls summer temps

I had a '50 model 140A (9693A) with a C-90 & I learned to fly in a '48 with a C-90. The '48 was a bit faster than the '50 model. I enjoyed the 140A. Sold it back in 1989 to Dave Eby there in WF and he renovated the plane, put in a 0-200 and won a lot of awards with it while he owned it. That plane now belongs to a fellow in South Carolina if I remember.

Good luck to you son with his ratings

Frank

Frank, it has been several years since I flew a 170 so they may be closer than I remember. It does a nice job with one person, half tanks and a cold January morning.

No longer in Wichita Falls. We moved to Poplar Grove, IL last September.

I think Daves 140 went to his son in law...unfortunately he sold his Legend Cub and stopped flying last year. He has slowed down considerably.

In high school I polished a guys 195 in exchange for time in his 150TD. I swore then I would never own a polished airplane...now look what I have done. The gentleman who sold her to us said I would need to polish her before OSH. I looked at my son Alex and said "No, I won't..."

[170C]

Bruce I imagine you were glad to move from WF. I think Dave's son in law must have sold 140PD to the fellow on th east coast. That guy has a Cirrus as well. Frank

[4-Shipp]

Frank, my mistake on Dave's 140A. It was sold several years ago. I was thinking of his Legend Cub. He had it until last summer.

Bruce

[GAHorn]

[...In high school I polished a guys 195 in exchange for time in his 150TD. I swore then I would never own a polished airplane...now look what I have done. The gentleman who sold her to us said I would need to polish her before OSH. I looked at my son Alex and said "No, I won't..."

Secret to polished airplanes: NEVER wash it using any kind of soap or detergent!

Use a few cups of J-4, Jet A, kerosene, coal oil, or WD-40 (my personal choice) in a 5 gal bucket. Add water forcefully to make a milky solution.
Rinse airplane with water hose.
Wash airplane using WD40 solution and NEW cotton mop and/or old towels.
Rinse again with water hose.
Dry using old cotton towels.
Clean windows with your favorite product.
Wash your old towels in HOT water and let dry, for next time.

Wear sun glasses, drink favorite beverage. Grin.

Remember, Cessna never made polished airplanes. They made airplanes out of unpainted, AlClad aluminum. If you use the method above, your airplane will keep it's attractive look without polishing for 20 years or more. My airplane was last polished in 1997 when it went to Oshkosh and won a restoration trophy.
The WD40 lubricates weatherseals, doorseals, hinges, fight control hinges, and displaces water from seams and fights corrosion. It is harmless to Plexiglas. It makes water "bead up" if your airplane gets wet, and has a "fresh-waxed" look. It will only look slightly-less-than-fantastic if parked next to some recently/highly-polished airplane. (But you will be relaxed and cool and the other owner will be sweaty, tired, and his wife will be giving him holy hell for washing his blackened polishing-clothes in her washing machine.)

This method works for ordinary painted airplanes also.

(WD-40 sells for about $20 or less in gallon cans at big box and hardware stores.)

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

Use a few cups of J-4, Jet A, kerosene, coal oil, or WD-40 (my personal choice) in a 5 gal bucket. Add water forcefully to make a milky solution.

This is the exact solution Dad and I used to wash our house windows twice a year as I grew up. A semi annual ritual in the spring taking down the storm windows and again in the fall putting them back up. Dad poured the secret cleaner straight from the kero lamp hanging in the kitchen porch for emergencies. We even used a brush on a long handle popular for aircraft washing.

I might have to break from my stringent routine of using only a natural rinse every few days to a semi annual rinse from a bucket full of secret sauce like Dad and I did for so many years. Thanks for the memories George.