bagarre wrote:Those numbers sound familiar I passed the check ride obviously but had no confidence in my ability to slow fly or stall an airplane in any other configuration than what was drilled into me. It wasn't until I started flying with my tailwheel instructor in the 170 that I really understood what was happening with the plane. He'd cover the all the instruments and we'd practice real stick and rudder slow flight. Slow flight, stalls in all kinds of configurations....without gauges, you learned what the plane was telling you and I lost my fear (replaced with healthy respect).voorheesh wrote: Regarding observations on recent private pilot training and slow flight, it is not unusual for CFIs to use a "Gouge" to help students remember the basics. 1700RPM, full flaps, 5 degrees nose up pitch will help get you to minimum controllable airspeed in a typical Cessna single. Maintaining altitude, heading and airspeed in slow flight is evidence of an important skill and is required to pass the test. If you read the Noll report, you will find the majority of aviation accidents occur during takeoff and landing where slow flight and stall recognition skills are the most important. Frequently, we find that pilots involved in these accidents did not maintain proficiency in these maneuvers with the following results: They are unable to recognize impending loss of control. They lack the skill necessary to maintain/recover control in critical situations such as takeoff or landing. The basic skills you demonstrate on a private pilot test will deteriorate with time even if you fly regularly. We all develop bad habits to the detriment of safety. Do not wait 24 months for a cursory flight review. Practice Practice Practice! Happy new year.
10 hours with him and I felt like I learned more than in the previous 100 hours.
Perhaps, in my case the difference was my first instructor was building time to become a jet pilot (and CFI was a way to do that) and my second instructor was someone passionate about little airplanes? I wonder how many other pilots out there never practice slow flight and stall recovery because they were never comfortable with them in the first place.
That sounds like a success story to me. Examiners frequently recite the old line: "License to learn, Son". Also, a good idea to fly with the gauges covered, probably best with an experienced CFI.