Color scheme O-300B
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Color scheme O-300B
Hi all,
I've tried to read all the post related to this subject but I have still some points which are not totally clear for me and I apologize in advance if the answers was already posted..
So,
As far as I understood ,
Cylinders : Flat black
Valve cover : Gloss black
Case and sump : Dark grey
Accessories : Gloss black for all of them
What about the manifold intake ?? Dark grey or flat black ??
As the cylinders are chromed , I will keep the orange ring on them..
What else , do if forgot something specific ??
I tried to find on line a picture of an engine 100% as the stock version but I don't think I have one
This one is correct for valve cover but should be flat black for the cylinders and the grey is to light ( if I'm right , this was more a Lycoming grey color isn't it ?? ) ( even if it's a wonderful nice job !! )
This one looks like to have the right dark grey case color , for the cylinder it looks good as well but the valve covers doesn't sound correct ...
Thank you very much all of you for your help
We will start to paint the engine in the next couple of days and I'm trying to have the right information BEFORE and not after
Thanks again in advance for you comments gentleman ,
Fred
I've tried to read all the post related to this subject but I have still some points which are not totally clear for me and I apologize in advance if the answers was already posted..
So,
As far as I understood ,
Cylinders : Flat black
Valve cover : Gloss black
Case and sump : Dark grey
Accessories : Gloss black for all of them
What about the manifold intake ?? Dark grey or flat black ??
As the cylinders are chromed , I will keep the orange ring on them..
What else , do if forgot something specific ??
I tried to find on line a picture of an engine 100% as the stock version but I don't think I have one
This one is correct for valve cover but should be flat black for the cylinders and the grey is to light ( if I'm right , this was more a Lycoming grey color isn't it ?? ) ( even if it's a wonderful nice job !! )
This one looks like to have the right dark grey case color , for the cylinder it looks good as well but the valve covers doesn't sound correct ...
Thank you very much all of you for your help
We will start to paint the engine in the next couple of days and I'm trying to have the right information BEFORE and not after
Thanks again in advance for you comments gentleman ,
Fred
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Ooppssss ...
I just realize that the post is probably not in the right spot ... I should have been in the hangar area ..
But I don't know how to move it ...
I just realize that the post is probably not in the right spot ... I should have been in the hangar area ..
But I don't know how to move it ...
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
I agree totally , it will be nicer , even , I will have loved to have them Chromed but it try to bring back this lady,as close,as possible to the conditions when she left Wichita...Aryana wrote:I think the rocker covers might have been silver at one point. I think that looks nicer than all black cyls/covers. Adds some contrast.
But thanks for your comment .
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Done.fpinan wrote:I agree totally , it will be nicer , even , I will have loved to have them Chromed but it try to bring back this lady,as close,as possible to the conditions when she left Wichita...Aryana wrote:I think the rocker covers might have been silver at one point. I think that looks nicer than all black cyls/covers. Adds some contrast.
But thanks for your comment .
The cyls were indeed black, as were the rocker covers. (TCM did not start painting engines gold until the 60s.)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: Color scheme O-300B
So , is it the Dark grey on the second picture the right color tendency ?? More than the grey on the first picture ?.
And what about the manifold intake ?? Is it the same than the cylinders or the case ???
And what about the manifold intake ?? Is it the same than the cylinders or the case ???
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
I overhauled an engine a few years back and found this outfit in Ohio . They will mix the proper grey for you in Randolph enamel.
http://www.aircrafttechsupport.com/
Tim
http://www.aircrafttechsupport.com/
Tim
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Tim ,tps500 wrote:I overhauled an engine a few years back and found this outfit in Ohio . They will mix the proper grey for you in Randolph enamel.
http://www.aircrafttechsupport.com/
Tim
I don't need to buy the paint from them as I have my own source for that but I just need to know the color .
So if you did it , what's your opinion ? Is it closer to pic1 ( light grey ) or pic 2 ( darker grey )..
Do you have a picture of your engine you can send to me ??
Which color the manifold intake are on your engine ?
Thank you Tim
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Intakes were also black. I don't know as to the fidelity of the computer-monitor reproducing the colors you've pictured... but the original color was closer to the darker grey. (not exactly, but closer. Think "navy/battleship".)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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Re: Color scheme O-300B
With all the talk of original colors, with the different paint sources around, I would think that perhaps it would be best to match colors using Pantone matching system. At Horizon, we had a small scanner type device that was about the size of an optical tachometer for R/C airplanes that would scan the color and spit out matching colors.
The printing world lives on Pantone, but I'm not sure how much of that translates to paint. If nothing else, having a Pantone color chip is an easy part to match paint to. This would be another thing that would be nice to have in the Association's arsenal of information.
The printing world lives on Pantone, but I'm not sure how much of that translates to paint. If nothing else, having a Pantone color chip is an easy part to match paint to. This would be another thing that would be nice to have in the Association's arsenal of information.
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Ryan Smith wrote:With all the talk of original colors, with the different paint sources around, I would think that perhaps it would be best to match colors using Pantone matching system. At Horizon, we had a small scanner type device that was about the size of an optical tachometer for R/C airplanes that would scan the color and spit out matching colors.
The printing world lives on Pantone, but I'm not sure how much of that translates to paint. If nothing else, having a Pantone color chip is an easy part to match paint to. This would be another thing that would be nice to have in the Association's arsenal of information.
Yes , any colorimetric system will be ideal . In my composites Job we use (L,a,b ) coordinate color system under a specific light .
An other good color reference is the RAL system .
I think , i have now a good idea of what it should be . Thanks again !
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
The color was very dark grey with a tint of blue. I will try to find a picture.
Tim
Tim
Re: Color scheme O-300B
OK, I found a picture, but it is hard to see the true color. It may be worth a call to Aircraft Technical Support. They were very helpful. The engine I did was an A65, and I bought a quart and some thinner, and I did two engines. The color was closer to the second picture. All of the pictures of Continental engines showed the intakes were painted black.
I would love to see a picture of your engine when you get finished.
Tim
I would love to see a picture of your engine when you get finished.
Tim
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Kind of on topic... has anyone every done an aerosol overhaul?
IE, try to re-paint the motor while still on the plane for cosmetic reasons?
IE, try to re-paint the motor while still on the plane for cosmetic reasons?
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Oh waouh !! Very nice work Tim .tps500 wrote:OK, I found a picture, but it is hard to see the true color. It may be worth a call to Aircraft Technical Support. They were very helpful. The engine I did was an A65, and I bought a quart and some thinner, and I did two engines. The color was closer to the second picture. All of the pictures of Continental engines showed the intakes were painted black.
I would love to see a picture of your engine when you get finished.
Tim
I might finally just by it from your source as I love the color.
It was a 2K component right ?
Sorry to bother you ...
Thanks again Tim for your help.
Fred
Frédéric PINAN
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
52, C170B / SN#20627
********************************
f.pinan@gmail.com
Mooresville ,NC
Re: Color scheme O-300B
Spruce sells "Lycoming Gray" paint in a rattle can that approximates it.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.